Supplements

[Blair]

What kind of suppllements do you take? This can be anything, including just vitamin C.

I take
Protein Powder
Glutamine
A multivitamin from GNC

[DoLo]

How much does all that shit cost you?

[DoorKnob]

im gonna start taking aftermax

[Blair]

Originally posted by DoorKnob
im gonna start taking aftermax

There is much better stuff Jamey. Yes, I know what aftermax is. Maybe you should start out with the basics before you get into the big stuff. Protein for starters. I would take Swole V2 over aftermax anyday.

[Blair]

Originally posted by DoLo
How much does all that shit cost you?

$30 for 5lbs of protein, and $20 for 300 grams of glutamine or something like that. You use glutamine in small doses though. It is an amino acid naturally produced in the body for anyone that is wondering.

[Aaron]

nothing

[DoLo]

do you have a job blair, cuz i don't. I can't afford that shit, i could go paintballing for $50!

[DoorKnob]

Originally posted by Blair
There is much better stuff Jamey. Yes, I know what aftermax is. Maybe you should start out with the basics before you get into the big stuff. Protein for starters. I would take Swole V2 over aftermax anyday.



*shrug* a good friend of mine suggested aftermax so I think im just gonna try that. all the different kinds of stuff will do the same thing... they help you get bigger.. *shrug*

[Kenny]

I took...

Frozen pizza, jack in the box tacos, nachos, etc. those will all make you big.

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Kenny
I took...

Frozen pizza, jack in the box tacos, nachos, etc. those will all make you big. :chuckle:

[Hobo]

protein powder
creatine
im gonna start taking (about a week or two)
EcdySterone (300mg)
Methoxylon

[Blair]

Originally posted by Hobo

EcdySterone (300mg)
Methoxylon

What is this stuff?

[Hobo]

Originally posted by Blair
What is this stuff?


supplements

[Nyeh]

glucosamine chondrotin, for my gimp knees

[Keith Brown]

I've begun the process of getting into full blown shape....

I'm taking Amino 1500, Ultra Vita Man, Xtreme Trim(ephedra free)

[Fidel]

flintstone vitamins

[Friend]

deca-durabolin,equipoise,nolvadex and Primoteston Depot

[Jared]

Centrum EX, Stacker 3, Hydroxycut, Magnesium

[Blair]

Shouldn't just 1 fat burner suffice?

[hondata]

Originally posted by Devin
i take nothing, and im stronger than all of you. pfft pussies.

You are not stronger than me lb for lb.

Only supplement i've ever really taken was basic weight gainer and look where that got me. no where.

[Daniel]

Im starting a cutting diet. I actually worked out how many calories, how many grams of protein, and how many grams of carbs per day.

I was thinking I probably work out away to get this all these in a combination of a few pills, a shake, or some kind of nutritional power bar. But I guess making the diet off food is better than just taking a few pills. So I'm gonna have to figure out some complex diet with actual food. :(

The supplements that were recommended to me...

1.)Whey Protein Powder (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/whey.html)
2.)Some sort of multi-vitamin.
3.)Glutamine (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/glutamine.html)
4.)Creatine
5.)HMB (http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hmb.html)

The first 4 make sense after I read up about them. Im iffy on the 5th one. I've known people that take the first 4, well not exactly number 1. But types of protein powder.


Originally posted by Hobo
EcdySterone (300mg)
Methoxylon

Is the EcdySterone a steriod? I looked it up and it said it was the "steridal holy grail".

Methoxylon sounds good from the reasearch stuff I pulled up. Tell me how it goes...


Originally posted by Keith Brown
Xtreme Trim(ephedra free)

What's the difference between that and Xtreme Trim Carb Curb?

Why not get Xtreme Trim Supreme Ephedra Free?

[Kenny]

just get some "Mega Colon Blow"

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Kenny
just get some "Mega Colon Blow"

I already ate Thanksgiving Dinner.

[Nyeh]

i have the caloric intake of 3 men, but weigh 135 lbs :)

[Fidel]

my weight loss plan consists of:

eating all i want, then a little trip to the restroom.

binge eating + bulimia = :)

[Hobo]

Here is a basic meal plan for you Daniel. EcdySterone is not a steroid it is a supplement like Methoxylon

Meal 1 (7am) - 1 Cup orange juice & 1 whole wheat bagle or 1/2 cup of 100% non-instant oatmeal. 2 egg whites or 1/4 cup cottage cheese

Meal 2 (10am) - Trioplex Bar or protein shake

Meal 3 (1pm) - 1 cup brown rice, 3 oz lean meat & 1 cup of veggies

Meal 4 (4pm) - Handful of almonds & a fresh fruit

Meal 5 (7pm) - 1 small regular potato, 3 oz lean meat, and 1 cup of veggies.

Meal 6 (10pm) - Whey protein shake, this meal should be taken immediatly after you workout, i workout at night so this is about what time i take it.

[Daniel]

Thanks for the help Hobo. Now I just got to figure out how much calories, carbs, and protiens that all is.

[Blair]

http://www.bodybuilding.com

Great forum, the regulars are really helpful. That's where I get most of my information. They also have a crapload of articles to read. CHeck this thread out, it has just about everything you need to know Daniel. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...threadid=167918 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167918)

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Blair
http://www.bodybuilding.com

Great forum, the regulars are really helpful. That's where I get most of my information. They also have a crapload of articles to read. CHeck this thread out, it has just about everything you need to know Daniel. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...threadid=167918 (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167918)

Ah thanks... That has more information that mine. I got mine from a Mixed Martial Arts forum the Diet one to be exact.

Look at what the guy who posted my advice looks like. I think he knows his shit...

[Blair]

puh, that's not his real body, he just ironed it on to himself.

[derekisdman]

I take:

1. Whey protein
2. Multi-Vitamin
3. Flaxseed Oil
4. Glutamine

You guys should get some EFA supplements, good stuff not just for bodybuilding but health wise as well.

What kind of protein powder does everyone use?

The guy in that picture isn't impressive, he's not even big his body fat % is just really low.

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Devin
yeah his shoulders = not existant



*waits to get flamed by daniel*
"HIS SHOULDERS ARE WAYYY BIGGER THAN YOURS!!! MAN I GOTTA SIT ON MY FATASS AND COMPARE YOU TO ANYONE BUT MYSELF!!!"

LOL, I knew you were gonna come knock something. Either saying I'm fat (which I am not) or about that dude. You did both! Good Job!

By the way I honestly don't care if the only comment you can make about that dude is he has no shoulders.

Also there is no need to compare myself to you because I am simply better than you.

*wait to get flamed by Devin*
"YOU ARE NOT FATASS!!! IM THE BEST AT EVERYTHING!!! *POSTS PICTURES OF HIMSELF NAKED* SEE EVERYONE WANTS ME!!! BECAUSE I'M HOT!!!

/devin's delusion off

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Devin
you arent better than me, never will be. ask anyone on here.

No, because I don't really care about it as much as you do. You care so much you will probably make a poll or a thread about who is better me or you. See unlike you, I don't need validation of my self from a bunch of people that I only know from the internet.

See anyone can say they are better than you and you will freak out. Like Fidel hearing someone say, "Joann has a nice butt".

[derekisdman]

Break it up, break it up.

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Devin
yet daniel, you write paragraph after paragraph with shitty come backs. you obviously care. i can own you in under 10 words. you loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose.

I have to explain everything out so you'll get it. < 10 Words

[Hobo]

Post a picture of yourself daniel.

[Daniel]

Originally posted by Hobo
Post a picture of yourself daniel.

Just of me standing or something? Also why just out of curiousity.

*resists urge to post pic of me with a stripper*

[Hobo]

Originally posted by Daniel
Just of me standing or something? Also why just out of curiousity.

*resists urge to post pic of me with a stripper*


You always get called fat, and you say that you are not, so i am just wondering if you are or not.

[Daniel]

Okay as soon as I get this film developed I'll post one.

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Daniel
Just of me standing or something? Also why just out of curiousity.

*resists urge to post pic of me with a stripper*
yeah thats right a stripper...not a girl you know

[Daniel]

Originally posted by IIIIIIIIIIIIID
yeah thats right a stripper...not a girl you know

Sorry I don't normally go around taking pictures with every girl I know so I can show them to retarded 15yr olds on the internet. =)

[Aaron]

you dont know girls

[Daniel]

Originally posted by IIIIIIIIIIIIID
you dont know girls

If perhaps you didn't get the sarcasm in my last post let me explain it out for you.

I don't care that you think I don't know any girls. Im not about to sit here and prove your ignorance to you.

So in closing...

[Automat0r]

I'm currently taking NitroTech.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

(...)let me explain it out for you.

(...)Im not about to sit here and prove your ignorance to you

All in the same post. Am I the only one who sees the blatant contradiction? Sigh, I suppose so.


*resists urge to post pic of me with a stripper*

Is this the same Daniel who I see constantly kissing the ass of every girl on these boards, going on about his celibacy and respect for women? Haha, hypocrite.

-JP

[derekisdman]

Originally posted by Automat0r
I'm currently taking NitroTech.

Nitro Tech has traces of steriods - http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6678859

[Automat0r]

Originally posted by derekisdman
Nitro Tech has traces of steriods - http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6678859

Well..thank goodness I'm taking my last dosage today after my workout, cause I ain't buyin' that shit anymore.

[derekisdman]

Depending on how much you want to pay, I know of some really good whey protein. Highest quality, best tasting. Expensive though - 2 lbs. for about $25.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

I'm gonna go into law enforcement also, and I'm considering taking a cycle, myself. Two of my best buddies did one over Summer, and put on ~30 lbs each. It's perfectly safe if you know what you're doing. If you get the right cycle, you'll have all of the drugs you need to see results, plus those to combat any side effects.

You just have to read up on your shit, put together the right cycle, and you'll be fine.

-JP

[Hobo]

You have to workout frequently and have a decent diet for them to work well.

[derekisdman]

Yes, you still have to be devoted and work hard. However, steriods are never perfectly safe. If you read up on your stuff and do things properly, they can become much safer. You're still messing with your body's natural chemistry though. I would never do the stuff. I'm a believer int he natural route and don't want to take any short cuts.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Nothing is ever perfectly safe. Driving a car isn't safe. Breathing polluted air isn't perfectly healthy. I could go on and on. If you know what you're doing, they're as safe as any legal supplements. Yes, you are messing with your body's natural chemistry. You're also messing with it when you consume alcohol, tobacco, a soft drink or a cup of coffee. All I'm saying is that steroids aren't nearly as unhealthy as everyone makes them out to be, unless you don't know what you're doing.

Devin - Most departments I've been in contact with don't require a polygraph. That's usually only standard practice in federal branches. I hear ya though, after being a local cop for a few years (and building a resume), I'm considering going federal. The polygraph is something I'm most certainly NOT looking forward to.

-JP

[Blair]

Originally posted by Automat0r
I'm currently taking NitroTech.

Hey, I don't want this to seem like a flame, but there is much better stuff out there. Nitrotech is a waste of money, it gives you minimal gains and is way more expensive than most things out there. I can post resources if you like. I am no expert on supplements but I have done a ton of research on them and maybe I can help. What are you looking to do with your body? Do you want to add muscle mass? Do you want to get cut? Do you want to just get sronger and not worry about how your body looks? etc.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Yeah, most people go into law enforcement because they know/knew a family member who was involved in it. Nobody in my family ever had any law enforcement experience. So when I told my family what I intended to do, they were like, "what the fuck for?"

I'm not the type to sit a desk job, I like to be entertained. Being a cop, you never know what you're going to face. Plus, gotta love the power that comes with the badge. Hell, I've already gotten a good bit of power through my connections to law enforcement. Even though the money's not there, I can't see myself doing anything else.

-JP

[derekisdman]

Originally posted by NatrlBornThrllr
Nothing is ever perfectly safe. Driving a car isn't safe. Breathing polluted air isn't perfectly healthy. I could go on and on. If you know what you're doing, they're as safe as any legal supplements. Yes, you are messing with your body's natural chemistry. You're also messing with it when you consume alcohol, tobacco, a soft drink or a cup of coffee. All I'm saying is that steroids aren't nearly as unhealthy as everyone makes them out to be, unless you don't know what you're doing.

Devin - Most departments I've been in contact with don't require a polygraph. That's usually only standard practice in federal branches. I hear ya though, after being a local cop for a few years (and building a resume), I'm considering going federal. The polygraph is something I'm most certainly NOT looking forward to.

-JP

I don't consume alchohol, tobacco, soft drinks, or coffee, but there is a BIG difference between that and steriods. True, they are not as unhealthy as they are made out to be when used correctly but there are still side affects and risks. One problem with people who go on steriods is that they become obsessed with the results they get from them and start to abuse them.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Devin - Damn, I might need to move to Garland...

-JP

[NatrlBornThrllr]

No...there are no side effects if you put together the correct cycle. You might want to read up on things a bit more before making such broad, generic assumptions. Ah, and regarding people becoming addicted...that would be abuse of the drugs, and I never said they weren't unhealthy when abused. I said that they're not unhealthy when used correctly.


I don't consume alchohol, tobacco, soft drinks, or coffee

[Michael Fornal]

And I know no suit that damn sexy could be hand sown(sp?!?).

[Keith Brown]

Haters.



I'd do him.

[derekisdman]

I have read up.

[Daniel]

Yeah, most people go into law enforcement because they know/knew a family member who was involved in it. Nobody in my family ever had any law enforcement experience. So when I told my family what I intended to do, they were like, "what the fuck for?"

I'm not the type to sit a desk job, I like to be entertained. Being a cop, you never know what you're going to face. Plus, gotta love the power that comes with the badge. Hell, I've already gotten a good bit of power through my connections to law enforcement. Even though the money's not there, I can't see myself doing anything else.

-JP

People wonder why cops get stereotyped as power trippers. Thats why..

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Got a problem with it? Fuck you. Watch your head when getting into the back seat of my car.

-JP

[Blair]

I rode in the back of a cop car once. It was really uncomfortable. No leg room at all. Sheesh, can't a criminal get some legroom?

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Yeah, I took a ride in the back of one too, not only did the leg room suck, but it was fucking hot as hell back there...

-JP

[Daniel]

Got a problem with it? Fuck you. Watch your head when getting into the back seat of my car.

-JP

Yes I do. No. I will never be in the back of a cop car for doing something wrong.

I hate how cops always assume that you did something wrong or how they try to entrap you into telling them things.

With all their fallacies of complex questions. Two questions are asked at one. The question is asked in such a way that regardless of how it is answered, the presumption of the first question is granted.

Policeman: When did you notice you were running the red light, Mr. Smith?
Smith: I didn't notice it, Sir.
Policeman: Well, Mr. Smith, if you didn't notice it, I am going to have to write you a tivket for careless driving as well as running the red light. You ought to notice such things.
Smith: Maybe I saw it. I think I was almost across the intersection when I noticed the light was red.
Policeman: So you admit you ran it! There's another ticket for willful negligence. You ran the light even when you saw it was red!

But I know how to answer these questions. When confronted with a complex question, explain to the questioner that she is asking two questions in one and that you will be happy to answer them both in turn. Then proceed to separate the questions. Your opponent's trick will fall flat on it's face. =)

[NatrlBornThrllr]

A) A cop doesn't need to ask you "complex questions" in order to write you a citation for a traffic violation. All he has to say is "You ran that light, here's your ticket." He couldn't care less whether your admission comes via some complex interrogation strategy, or whatever in the hell it is you're talking about. In fact, he doesn't need your admission at all. Hence the line every officer is required to recite when writing a citation, "Sign here, it's not an admission of guilt, just a promise that you'll go to court by this date." So, yeah...what in the hell are you talking about?

B) You can't generalize an entire profession and base it on one hypothetical situation. "See, in the situation that I dreamt up, the cop tricks the guy...so this justifies the comment I made about all cops being on power trips!!!1!!one!!1" :rolleyes:

Here's a hypothetical situation for you:

Cop: We found the man who killed your wife.
Smith: Thank you so much, this will be the source of a good bit of closure for me and my family.
Cop: Just doing my job.

If you're going to generalize the hundreds of thousands of men and women across the nation who work in law enforcement, don't do it with a hypothetical situation that would likely never happen in the first place. If that's the best basis for your argument, maybe that should tell you something. So if you want to debate the topic, at least come with something stronger than that.

Oh, and how about showing a little fucking respect for the people who put their asses on the line day in and day out in one of the most dangerous professions out there, all in an effort to allow your fat ass to walk the streets with no fears.

-JP

[Blair]

Fuck tha Police comin' straight from tha underground. Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown.

(Daniel Speaking)

[Michael Fornal]

JP, awesome post. I hate people who bash cops like that. Especially just for the sake of bashing them.

Great, great post.

[David]

I rode in the back of a cop car once. It was really uncomfortable. No leg room at all. Sheesh, can't a criminal get some legroom?

Brings back memories of one time I got in a cop car, and they cop didn't double lock the handcuffs (so they dont tighten anymore), and when he put me in the car my hands smashed into the back of the seat, and the cuffs got TIGHT. I had bruises the next day on my wrist. :damnit:

[Blair]

Thanks for keeping on topic guys.

[NatrlBornThrllr]

I'm sorry to say, but...

[Blair]

I'm sorry to say, but...

Shut up commie.

[Daniel]

A) A cop doesn't need to ask you "complex questions" in order to write you a citation for a traffic violation. All he has to say is "You ran that light, here's your ticket." He couldn't care less whether your admission comes via some complex interrogation strategy, or whatever in the hell it is you're talking about. In fact, he doesn't need your admission at all. Hence the line every officer is required to recite when writing a citation, "Sign here, it's not an admission of guilt, just a promise that you'll go to court by this date." So, yeah...what in the hell are you talking about?

B) You can't generalize an entire profession and base it on one hypothetical situation. "See, in the situation that I dreamt up, the cop tricks the guy...so this justifies the comment I made about all cops being on power trips!!!1!!one!!1" :rolleyes:

Here's a hypothetical situation for you:

Cop: We found the man who killed your wife.
Smith: Thank you so much, this will be the source of a good bit of closure for me and my family.
Cop: Just doing my job.

If you're going to generalize the hundreds of thousands of men and women across the nation who work in law enforcement, don't do it with a hypothetical situation that would likely never happen in the first place. If that's the best basis for your argument, maybe that should tell you something. So if you want to debate the topic, at least come with something stronger than that.

Oh, and how about showing a little fucking respect for the people who put their asses on the line day in and day out in one of the most dangerous professions out there, all in an effort to allow your fat ass to walk the streets with no fears.

-JP

A.)Ya you're right he doesn't really need any proof at all really to write a citation. My bad...

B.)Cops do generally have a swagger of they're right and you're wrong. Condescending I believe its called. That is what I was trying to say by my statement.

Here's a real life example:
Like how when I was in high school and the school officer I assumed I broke this teachers desk. Since I didnt leave the room after the other guy who did it ran out of the room on the security camera right next to the room. They figured I stayed in there breaking the desk while that guy ran out because I had broke it. So the officer had me stand up against the wall telling me just to admit to breaking the desk that he knew I was in the room he had it on tape. Telling me I destroyed school property and as punishment I could... yada yada yada...

I had to convince him that I didn't do it. Innocent until proven guilty they say... :rolleyes: Finally he started to be reasonable and stopped acting like he was just gonna take me to jail or something. I finally got him to agree with me that the other kid did it and him running down the hall to hide in the bathroom was admiting his quilt. So then the officer got that kid and made him cry. Then half way through his interrogation of him I got to leave as I was no longer needed.


I have respect for the Police in general it's a hard job. Yes some cops are good while others are not so good just like with any other profession.

Also Im not a fatass. Good job you of condescending though. My only good experience with cops was after my sister totaled her car one drove us to our house.

Other than that I have had shit stolen from me, things that have been fucked up because people tried to steal them and my car broken into numerous times. This has only resulted in me buying a new lawn mower, golf clubs, cd player, and etc... Also repairs for my car and such.


Fuck tha Police comin' straight from tha underground. Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown.

(Daniel Speaking)

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE! To bad they're commies. =(

[NatrlBornThrllr]

Other than that I have had shit stolen from me, things that have been fucked up because people tried to steal them and my car broken into numerous times. This has only resulted in me buying a new lawn mower, golf clubs, cd player, and etc... Also repairs for my car and such.

What do you expect them to do about it? Better yet, what would YOU do to solve a crime like that? You have no physical evidence, no suspect, and no witnesses. If searches of local pawn shops don't turn up any leads, there's really nowhere to go with a case like that. It's ludicrous for you to generate an opinion of a profession, and base it solely on a rent-a-cop from your school, and a handful of open burglary cases.

Regarding the condescending swagger you mentioned earlier, that's a part of the profession. I saw you mention Freud in a post elsewhere on this site, so I'll assume you're at least somewhat knowledgeable in the field of psychology. I'm sure you're aware that psychological studies have shown that over 90% of communication is nonverbal.

Keeping this in mind, you have to realize that a police officer is in a position of authority. This position demands respect. When questioning a suspect, writing a ticket...doing practically anything an officer does in a day's work...he has to have a bit of condescension in his demeanor. If he didn't, he wouldn't be given the respect that's necessary to expedite things.

For example, when questioning a suspect, if he doesn't have a bit of condescension in his demeanor, he's much less likely to get the cooperation of the person he's questioning. It's no different from an officer in the military addressing a private. He's in a position of authority, and his demeanor must reflect this in order to command the respect that he deserves. Just remember that condescension isn't always synonymous to belittling.

-JP

[Blair]

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE! To bad they're commies. =(

You know it is a cover of NWA right? They are commies? I never knew this. Zach was better than Chris Cornell. Agreed?

[o0Beaner]

iocaine powder

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Blair
You know it is a cover of NWA right? They are commies? I never knew this. Zach was better than Chris Cornell. Agreed?
cornells voice sucks

[Blair]

Originally posted by IIIIIIIIIIIIID
cornells voice sucks

I like it, but Zach's was way cooler.

"Sleep now in the fire"

[o0Beaner]

dissing chris cornell is blasphemy, and you shall both be burned alive at the stake promptly at dawn. soundgarden was badass, rage was badass, and now audioslave is badass. quiet, and ill hear nothing more of it.....because youll be burning at the stake of course.

[Publius]

Agreed. Cornell has a badass voice. Sure, Audioslave is different from Rage... So? They're both GREAT at what both have done. Two different musical styles by (basically) one band with a different frontman. If anything it's a testament to the awesomeness of the Rage musicians to be able to completely change their style at will.

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

What's the point in all this stuff? I mean, Jared's appetite-nullifying pills are necessary i guess cuz he's on a fat burning scheme. All of you had better realise that you need to exercise alot, these pills wont just work magic. Also anyone who is considering bulking supplements, if you don't exercise enough you'll end up a tubby little bitch.

ODB

[Hobo]

I lift weights nearly every day. The point of all of it is to gain lean muscle mass.

[Blair]

Ya, I work out plenty. Especially cardio because of atleast 5 days a week of soccer. I lift weights about 2 to 3 times a week.

[Ol' Dirty Bastard]

Got 'roids?

ODB